
We have evidence that black stones were worshipped in various parts of the Arab world; for example, Clement of Alexandria, writing ca. 190, mentioned ”the Arabs worship stone,” alluding to the black stone of Dusares at Petra. Maximus Tyrius writing in the second century says, ”The Arabians pay homage to I know not what God, which they represent by a quadrangular stone”; he alludes to the Kaaba that contains the Black Stone. Its great antiquity is also attested by the fact that ancient Persians claim that Mahabad and his successors left the Black Stone in the Kaaba, along with other relics and images, and that the stone was an emblem of Saturn.
- ur Why I am not a muslim av Ibn Warraq.

The last planet we can see unassisted, Saturn represents limits: the limit of our vision, the limit of our body (the skin), and the limits of personal action (the law). Saturn is the structure and the form behind the way things are. It is the Lord of this World, the Lord of Karma and Time, the keeper of Records, and our teacher. It rules the skin, teeth, the organs of hearing, the bones and the knees. With our knees we are able to bend in humility to the way things are, a truth whether or not we respond to it. Saturn symbolizes limitation, fear, time, structure, karma, consolidation, delays, the father, old age, tests, discipline, collective law/reality, school, teachers, contraction, responsibility, obligation, ambition and Satan.

Was the Kaaba Originally a Hindu Temple?
As the pilgrim proceeds towards Mecca he is asked to shave his head and beard and to don special sacred attire that consists of two seamless sheets of white cloth. One is to be worn round the waist and the other over the shoulders. Both these rites are remnants of the old Vedic practice of entering Hindu temples clean- and with holy seamless white sheets.
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According to the Encyclopaedia Britannica, the Kaaba had 360 images. Traditional accounts mention that one of the deities among the 360 destroyed when the place was stormed, was that of Saturn; another was of the Moon and yet another was one called Allah. That shows that in the Kaaba the Arabs worshipped the nine planets in pre-Islamic days. In India the practice of ‘Navagraha’ puja, that is worship of the nine planets, is still in vogue. Two of these nine are Saturn and Moon.
In India the crescent moon is always painted across the forehead of the Siva symbol. Since that symbol was associated with the Siva emblem in Kaaba it came to be grafted on the flag of Islam.
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Another Hindu tradition associated with the Kaaba is that of the sacred stream Ganga (sacred waters of the Ganges river). According to the Hindu tradition Ganga is also inseparable from the Shiva emblem as the crescent moon. Wherever there is a Siva emblem, Ganga must co-exist. True to that association a sacred fount exists near the Kaaba. Its water is held sacred because it has been traditionally regarded as Ganga since pre-Islamic times (Zam-Zam water).
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Muslim pilgrims visiting the Kaaba temple go around it seven times. In no other mosque does the circumambulation prevail. Hindus invariably circumambulate around their deities. This is yet another proof that the Kaaba shrine is a pre-Islamic Indian Shiva temple where the Hindu practice of circumambulation is still meticulously observed.
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Recital of the Namaz five times a day owes its origin to the Vedic injunction of Panchmahayagna (five daily worship- Panch-Maha-Yagna) which is part of the daily Vedic ritual prescribed for all individuals.
Muslims are enjoined cleanliness of five parts of the body before commencing prayers. This derives from the Vedic injuction ‘Shareer Shydhyartham Panchanga Nyasah’.
http://www.hinduism.co.za/kaabaa.htm

Touching or kissing the stone has a profound impact on the faithful as it is suppose to count in their favor on judgment day. [Judgment Day is a metaphor for the return to balance with the duality of our reality - at Zero Point.]
The great Muslim traveler from Valencia, Ibn Jubayr (1145-1217) describes the emotion he felt on touching the stone, The stone, when one kisses it, has a softness and freshness which delights the mouth; so much so that he who places his lips upon it wishes never to remove them. It suffices, moreover, that the Prophet said that it is the Right Hand of God on Earth.
http://www.crystalinks.com/blackstone.html

The word yoni is the Sanskrit word for ”divine passage”, ”place of birth”, ”womb” (more as nature as a womb and cradle of all creations) or ”sacred temple” (cf. lila). The word also has a wider meaning in both profane and spiritual contexts, covering a range of meanings of ”place of birth, source, origin, spring, fountain, place of rest, repository, receptacle, seat, abode, home, lair, nest, stable” (Monier-Williams). In classical texts such as Kama Sutra, yoni refers to vagina.
See also, Part II.
”..destroyed when the place was stormed.. ..and yet another was one called Allah(!?).”
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who ru man don’t u hav sence. if u don’t like to be muslim go away nobody will compel u. its ur choice but dont try to provacate muslims
Plz 2 learn 2 spell b4 u rite here!1
Also, go away from where? From the internet? Is the internet now Dar al-Islam? I think not.
Some corrections i’d like to make so that i can put your perspective right, if i can…. :)
For Hajj, a male is only required to shave the head. You are not allowed to shave the beard at all, if not ever.
The black stone is a meteorite from outer space. (I know nothing of the planet subject so I cant comment on saturn and the moon, I’d have to do my own research on that.. =D)
THe kaaba was originally built by prophet Ibrahim and his son Ismail (peace be upon them). It was later over taken by the pagan religions of that time in mecca hence the kaaba was filled with idols and various other things and what not. It was only later that the Kaaba was cleaned out and reclaimed by the muslims.
The black stone itself, was after it was laid on the kaaba, stolen. It was broken into peices and only some peices were returned to the kaaba. THe other peices are out there in the world, wherever they may be. The black stone; I think was first said to be white but over the years the process of it cleaning the sins of man made it go black.. but then I ask why name it the black stone.. but anyway thats the ideology.
We are asked to circle around the kaaba COUNTERclockwise. This is becasue it breaks the human soul spiritually from this dimension. Take a look at this link, It will explain more as to why we go 7 times around the kaaba,skip to 6.00minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePOzfxAR9bc
The zam zam water was not thier since pre islamic times. There is actually a story as to how that river came about. See this link: http://www.darulfatwa.org.au/content/view/579/288/
I hope I have gave you a a different view. I am not here to critisice you, just make you see this from all angles and make a judgement for yourself. You may even decide to further your own research to prove me wrong, but thats the beauty of having a mind that allows you to make desicions of our own.. I mean how boring would life be if we all thought the same.. :\ .. anyway takecare and I have taught you something.. :D.. You learn something new everyday!
dude, seriously, pass on knowledge though, it is the only way to educate the people of today to be prepared for tomrrow, for education is the greatest gift a parent can give its child.
Khan: I think we’re all quite aware of the orthodox Muslim story of the Kaaba. This is not the place for pious cover stories though.
peace be up on you my dear brother..i can tell you only one thing about what you wrote,its wrong!
you obviously need to learn the things you egnore!
your words will remain through the years and they will travel around the world with the technology of our days!
what if what you told the world is wrong?..how will you face god?….if you believe in god!..ps” no matter what religion we are we,re still humans if i as a muslim see a christian in danger i wont have time to think..i,ll act as a human should..the difference between us doesnt matter and you can learn it from children or even the very old peoples who can tell you lessons about life!”
Peace be unto you also.
Well, Omar… I don’t really care that you think the article is ”wrong”. Of course you think it’s wrong – you’re a Muslim. What else is new? When you say ”need to learn”, do you mean I need to learn the Muslim cover story for worshipping a stone? I am well aware of it already, thank you very much. It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
And yes, we are all children of God, but at the same time Muslims are programmed to be the enemies of the human race. Our Lord taught us ”By the fruit you shall judge the tree”, and Islam has borne wicked fruit all through the centuries and continues to do so. Of course there are some valid bits in the Qur’an, some sugar to sweeten the poison, but that doesn’t change the fact that Islam has been a curse upon humanity for 1400 years.
”That shows that in the Kaaba the Arabs worshipped the nine planets in pre-Islamic days.”
I cracked up when reading that one. The Arabs only knew about 6 of the planets at that time you idiot
Excellent, Koorosh! Now we’re getting somewhere.
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hey mate,,, u should know that we don’t worship stone, we worship ALLAH, oh sorry… how will u understand, ur religion is full of SEX STORIES and coz of that ur mind cannot think the right thing… WHAT’s THERE IN KHAJURAHO TEMPLE???????? k now leave it…..
Now something for ur knowledge…. jst read this and if u still have any doubts regarding the KAABA the reply to my post….
Holy Qur’an brought this story into the full light of history. Say: ”Allah spoken the Truth: follow the religion of Abraham, the sane in faith; he was not of the Pagans.” The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka: Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings. (Holy Qur’an 3:95-96)
From the above verses Holy Qur’an firmly establishes the fact that Abraham (p.b.u.h.) was the real founder of the Holy Shrine.
Now Give me any Verse or something from your holy book/s which spaks about the Kaaba,,, Coz if this Kaaba was a Hindu temple then its name or any sign should be present in your books…
Hello monkey,
1. Uhm, Hinduism is not our religion.
2. Khajuraho is full of sex, correct. The Hindus have a more sane approach to sex than Muslims, who hide the women and prefer to fuck little boys instead. As you no doubt know, homosexuality/beastiality/pedophilia is very common in Islamic societies.
3. You know, citing the Qur’an is not very good proof for anything. I know that you believe in it, but for people who don’t, citing a verse doesn’t ”firmly establish” anything.
Muslims are a bunch of misguided brainwashed missiles. How can you use logic when you have already dismissed your reasoning capabilities. You rejoice on seeing a new moon as the first sight of heaven, after we already landed and rummaged through it. You worship God by facing a black stone? And Abraham had nothing better to do than trek half way down through the desert to build a temple to house some stone with a son he had through his concubine, whom he dismissed ? And you people have to keep readjusting and reinterpreting your scripture every other day, so that it doesn’t sound funny. The only thing required to be a muslim is to abandon all reason and logic.
When I look at a house I do not always see just the house. I see the strength and faith of the men who built it. Also the inspiration from the one who asked that it be built.